StomperNet is sold out. Dammit. I needed to be a part of it. I received all those emails and looked at all those videos. This was it man. It could have been the one program that would help me gain an upperhand in this business. Andy and Brad said so. Just felt like I wanted to be part of the group. They are so smart and make all that money and all those people say they are so great. I think any amount of money would be worth being a part of the biggest IM marketing event since…last month.
That was me about 6 months ago. The SN hype would have taken hold causing me to have an interest in the thing. Hell, a year ago I’d already be wading into the forum waiting on my DVDs to learn how to sell crap and get my sites seen by 2 billion people.
However, my mindset has changed and I had zero interest in their offering. I was not Internet enabled until Tuesday night, at which time I surfed into the net, proceeded to the StomperNet site and laughed for about 5 minutes while my brain processed the $797 a freakin MONTH fee! Wheee! That’s alot of money. I hope the people who signed up for this thing are already making money on the net because it won’t take too many months before you can find yourself seriously in the hole.
The salespage made it seem that it was going to be very inclusive. Hell maybe you submit to a background check to be in the network. I don’t know because I didn’t get past the $797. And do the dynamic duo care? Nope because there are enough consumerus who fell all over themselves to get signed up.
I have to say I am impressed. This SN program is a study in building hype. These guys are the masters. Start out low-key. Make the reader feel like he is getting something for nothing. Even if it cost some green to produce, you know the backend is waiting to fill your boat with more stacks of cash than you can dream. Keep the groundswell moving. Throw out that you will only accept quality into the ‘Net. Applications have been turned away before and they said they would this time. Builds apprehension in the consumerus you see. Afraid they will miss out. Pretend to delay the release. For the good of the people, you understand. Feign concerns about the hysteria. Blog the specifics, if you can call it that. Allow people to comment on stuff they don’t even know about. The cheerleaders come out and give you a rah rah here and a rah rah there. The vids were genious. People love free. They all think that you are doing them a favor.
Congratulations to all those who were able to join in the fun. You are clearly the reason why we continue to see these offers being pimped across the net. You have set the standard that will have to be beat. Hell if the consumerus are spending $797 a month why not $897 or $997? Un-freakin-believable.
So who got turned away because their “application” was rejected? You know, all you “riff-raff”. As quick as they sold out, somehow I doubt the dynamic duo stopped counting Benjamins long enough to care who wanted in.
Here is a tip for nothing. It’s what I’m doing. Won’t cost you any amount of 7. I’m writing articles and putting easily searched keywords in them. Posting them to article directories Google likes. I wait around 2 weeks and, voila, my article is listed in Google for my niche search term. I don’t need to stomp around a $797 net to figure that SEO out. Guess instead of being light years ahead with all you Stompers, I’ll just keep learning at a slower pace with people who know their stuff, are willing to help and don’t feel the need to charge executive prices.
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Marc Lindsay // Oct 4, 2006 at 9:57 pm
Once again splork you bring a type of humour and post style to IM that I have not seen anywhere else, and you got me hooked.
As for my opinions on StomperNet?
Yeah I got it, why did I get it and blow freaking $797 a month on it?
Well trust me $797 per month is not chump change and it required some serious thought from my behalf.
You see I live, breath and eat SEO. Originally when I bought Brad Fallon’s and Andy Jenkin’s “Stomping The Search Engines” back about 2 years ago, I think for a once of fee for about $297. Heck I had to ask my fiance back then if I could have it for my birthday present.
Because I didnt have the money around to spend.
Well that first purchase was one of the best moves I had ever made. It gave me knowledge and taught me exactly what I needed to do to drive traffic to websites.
Probably could have found parts of it for free on the forum’s etc, but I figured I would rather learn directly from Brad Fallon through his course.
For me it was another nail in the coffin for SEO and was worth its absolute weight in gold compared to how much traffic and as a return profit it has returned me.
From the moment I heard even whispers of an updated version of “Stomping The Search Engines 2″ about 1.5 to 1 years ago, now known as StomperNet I knew that I would be getting it.
Tell you the truth I thought it would be just 1 product at around the $1000 mark and not a membership. So I had only mentally prepared for that price figure.
Then to see it would be costing almost that much per month, was a shock but I know the possibilities of it and have since made a commitment to make atleast 10x the cost of the product back from it.
As for the pre-sell hype, well after about the second video I got bored personally.
I just hate drawn out long running hype launches, especially when I knew I would be getting it anyway.
So it was interesting to watch, but I hope the market starts moving away from massive pre-launches.
What next a 6 month pre-launch, lol
For those that really arent doing much online, well they shouldnt even be close to thinking about buying StomperNet, it is just not for them.
If you are serious about learning SEO then there are some great places to check out that are FREE.
Brad Callen’s Free Guide
http://www.searchengineoptimizationmadeeasy.com - My comments - Loved it, Brad Callen shoots straight and directly to the point, he has helped me on many occasions in the early days trying to understand SEO
Charles (The Master Plan)
http://www.seo2020.com/ - My comments - He has a free guide which is fantastic and the paid guide has even better information if that is possible
Digital Point Forum
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/forumdisplay.php?f=12 - My comments - If you need to find something specific out about SEO this is the place, massive userbase, heaps of quality information, be prepared to search for it.
For http://www.PLRPro.com members and http://www.affilorama.com members, I have done some video’s and guides on SEO free for the members. Maybe not as good as SN lol but it is all about what is working for me.
Damn that turned into a long winded post.
But just wanted to provide your readers with some other excellent recources also splork
Regards
Marc
Reddiance // Oct 4, 2006 at 10:35 pm
People are crazy to pay that kind of money. Heck, you can buy SEO books, joing SEO forums and get free advice, etc., etc.
If these people that sell this stuff are making millions of dollars per year ($19,000,000 ?) why do they want EVEN more money from the average joes out there? Aren’t they happy with $19,000,000 ???? Or is it all a bunch of B.S. ?
Anonymous // Oct 4, 2006 at 10:59 pm
Now that’s the Splork I’ve come to know and love
Keep sticking it to the Guburuskis,
Mike
Mark // Oct 5, 2006 at 8:05 am
I have to agree, and I was sucked into the hype too (although my alarm bells were ringing), but when I saw that price tag, sheesh… I figured even if they only take on 500 people, that’s some serious wedge
As to your last para, how do you find directories Google likes, other than (I’m assuming) Yahoo and Dmoz?
Splork // Oct 5, 2006 at 5:58 pm
Hey Marc. Funny, I bought Stomping the Search Engines back in the day and sent it back. Interesting how some people can take some information and become successful with it and others suck with it. Jenkins was not happy at all with my request despite it being a no questions asked refund policy. He actually wanted me to explain why I wanted out. I did and it didn’t please him. Whatever.
I think those guys probably have a lot to teach. I just get SO turned off by their supposedly “no hype” (they actually wrote that in a post mortem email) marketing. Who the hell are they kidding? There was probably alot of people who had no business sending those guys their monthly morgtage checks for this program. Why they pimped it to the little guys is beyond me. Don’t they have enough mid-level to upper-level marketers who could afford this?
Marc I hope you can report back that it really is what you had hoped for. In a way it can only help those in PLRPro. You may not be able to overtly tell us what SEO stuff you learned but I think over time things will spill over into your reports and posts.
Anyway, I am sick of the hype, no hype, games the marketers play. Pretend value in junk videos, reports that just circle around the offer without providing any useful information and long slow build up to game day is simply annoying.
Oh and thanks for the list of free SEO resources. Callen’s report is great. I recommend Charles’ stuff. Daniel and your videos over at affilorama are excellent as well. Good stuff.
Splork // Oct 5, 2006 at 6:05 pm
Hey Reddiance. I can’t really fault someone wanting make money. If you make 19 million you end up with a mansion that costs 3 million and multiple cars, other houses, boats, vacations, divorce settlements, etc. They have bills too ya know.
I’m sure they aren’t happy with what they made. It’s never enough. Thanks goodness for capitalism and I sure wish I had that problem.
Splork // Oct 5, 2006 at 6:07 pm
Mike. Yea couldn’t let this opportunity pass me by. It’s good stuff.
Thanks for reading
Splork // Oct 5, 2006 at 6:15 pm
Hey Mark. what I was referring to was submiting articles to article directories that Google like. You should read the free report on bummarketingmethod.com.
Basically the idea is that GoArticles and EzineArticles are particularly loved by Google. They are. I can get my articles with links to my Affiliate programs read pretty quick.
Charles Heflin // Oct 5, 2006 at 7:45 pm
I was shocked at the price but it didn’t surprise me. I was going to join just to see if their core method was any different than what I am teaching in The Master Plan. Unfortunately I was in the air all day on the 4th traveling from Phoenix back to Myrtle Beach, SC
Hey Marc… Maybe you can give me some insight on their core method so I can compare it to The Master Plan.
In my gut I feel that it can’t be too different unless they dip into some black hat stuff. Their article swapping program is close. I am sure the search engines would hate it if they catch wind of it. It is also brilliant in the fact that it can’t be tracked and leaves no footprint.
We are actualy going to build the same system in the near future.
Splork,
Thank you for your most humourous post and helping the poor suckers out there realize that hype is… hype
Best regards,
Charles Heflin
SEO 20/20
Splork // Oct 5, 2006 at 9:31 pm
Hey Charles. I was in Phoenix on the 3rd. I’m sure you just missed me.
But the dynamic duo says their promotion was not hyped?! We must be mistaken.
I’ll be interested in what you come up with with your new system. Guess you’ll price it at $897 a week, huh?
Thanks for reading
Spikey // Oct 6, 2006 at 2:00 pm
Splork,
Funny post…very entertaining….
I didn’t buy into StomperNET actually haven’t even been to the sales page or what ever they have up for it. I’ve blocked all Hype from my inbox/vision/ears for new products.
How ever I will say this if they’re going to do what I think they’re going to do then it will give everyone in that group some serious leverage.
Of course the people inside will need to see what’s in front of them…but for those that do I think they’ll be handsomly rewarded down the rd.
Keep on truckin splork!
-Spikey
Paul // Oct 12, 2006 at 4:42 pm
Hey Splork;
Just new here today…. I must say - excellent posts. Diplomatic, yet making your point. Thanks for your clarity. We’re looking forward to featuring you on our site.
To Charles; (and everyone)
I have posted what I beleive to be the method that the ‘dynamic duo’ are using to ’stomp the net’. …It seems like a simple article and link exchange.
I posted ad nauseum about it, at http://www.JenkinsFallonStomper.com
Also, we’ll be releasing a site in the next week or so that is essentially a ‘guru watch’ - being a neutral open forum that will invite gurus, IM noobs, and IM vets to voice their opinions about currently practiced IM tactics. It will contain reports on ALL the ‘gurus’ and their launches, as well as give users the ability to rate each aspect of the guru and/or launch (eg: hype factor, educational factor, BS factor, success factors, etc…), as well as leave comments and opinions. More so, this will be a repository of case studies and links to SEO and IM resources (like this one) that are already out on the ‘net, hopefully devaluing the hype that gets innocent noobs (as most here have attested) to fork over cash that could be put to better use following FREE advice by REAL experts. (BTW, I don’t think ‘Br-andy’ are considered SEO experts in the SEO industry…)
Looking forward to many more great posts, Splork… thanks again.
Splork // Oct 12, 2006 at 6:08 pm
Hey Paul. Interesting site you got going there. I’ll definitely be a reader. Sounds like a good plan (and alot of work). It will be interesting to see if you can get the gurus to ’splain themeselves concerning their product hype.
Thanks for reading.
Deke // Nov 2, 2006 at 8:40 pm
That jenkinsfallonstomper site is very interesting but I don’t really understand the proof in the Link Network section. The sites linking to the target all seem legit and in a quick glance they don’t overlap between stomper sites. Can you explain a bit more?
If they are indeed using a non detectable Google bomb technique then I can see why they are charging almost $1000 a month. If you have a legit business selling real products at the price points of these sites, $1000 a month in AdWords spend is not unreasonable and can be much more. I was selling about $40,000 worth of product a month and my AdWords spend was $2000 to $3000 a month back in 2003.
Considering a top 10 listing in natural search is going to get way more clicks than an AdWords ad. I can see how they can easily justify the price. I’m not supporting what they are doing but just pointing out you may have explained the reasoning behind their price structure.
You’re paying for traffic by gaming the engines in a very sophisticated way. Think of it as a cheater’s pay per inclusion network with a monthly fee. LookSmart for 2006. I’m guessing once you stop paying, the links go away to be replaced by the next subscriber.
Just my .5 cent.
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