The very first newsletter I subscribed to when I started getting interested in Internet Marketing was Phil Wiley’s. I found the guy to be genuine and smart. He worked really hard up front for a few years and is now basically coasting on all that effort by traveling year round. How? Residual income. All those little sites, like 3,000, just keeps churning out a payday for the guy. He’s my hero. He does very little site building anymore or so he says. He barely even puts out a newsletter consistently these days. I like that he’s not constantly pimping to make more money. The guy is living. He discovered how much he needed for his lifestyle and that is enough.
Anyway, Jon Anderson was able to snag Wiley for a half an hour and grill him on PLR. Wiley says his sites still do really well with the PLR he’s used and its not because he “spent a lot of time rewriting them, or run them through article rewriting software.” I decided to purchase the Phil Wiley PLR interview for $17 (yes it’s an effing affiliate link).
Why would I do this? Because it’s an opportunity to learn something honest from a no-nonsense guy that I like and trust. I don’t find it any different than buying a book on investing by Warren Buffet or Jim Cramer. You can download the mp3 if you want but I read the transcript. It’s short at 15 pages. You either open your mind and learn a few things from a successful guy or you get mad because you spent your lunch money.
The interview covered how he picks out niche topics, which is stupid simple. What he does with PLR. How he uses and finds public domain content. And he throws in a few bits of motivation to get you going. Short and to the point. I liked it. Can’t say for certain if you will or won’t.
Of course there is an upsell with the thing as well. An interview that Jon Anderson had with some of the PLR kings and queens like Marc and Daniel of PLRPro and Kim Sanderline among a few others. It was called PLR Profit Predictions. It cost $8 on one of those “buy it now or it’s gone forever” squeeze pages. I bought it as well if only to hear what Marc, Daniel and Kim have to say about PLR articles and what they do with it. I’m please I did. I enjoyed reading it. And it confirmed my thinking on PLR articles as well.
So there you go. For $25 I bought two interviews with some of the bigger dogs in the game making fat cash in da biz. I actually enjoy learning things, even if I have to pay a little for the knowledge. I was entertained and learned enough to justify MY cost for the interviews. You mileage will vary.
9 responses so far ↓
IMgiver // Apr 18, 2007 at 9:31 am
Hi Splork,
I’m just curious to know how Phil uses his PLR articles without rewriting to get around the dup content filters. Not sure I want to pay $17 to find out that little piece of info though.
Splork // Apr 18, 2007 at 2:34 pm
It’s all about the complete page and how he combines PLR with other resources and items to make a page that is not duplicated anywhere else. Plus small changes to the PLR. Pretty easy and smart.
April // Apr 19, 2007 at 2:40 am
As far as I know SEs are looking at snippets of the page to check for dupe content and not just the whole page.
From a google patent:-
“only the extracted snippets, rather than the entire documents, are compared for purposes of determining similarity.”
Have you listened to the audio interview that Jim Morris sent to nichebot email mailling list? The guy he was interviewing talks about the importance of unique well-reaserched articles on a site that people would want to bookmark.
He also talks about getting links from a variety of places and also keeps updating websites and getting backlinks for sites which haven’t immediately got lots of visitors.
IMgiver // Apr 19, 2007 at 4:55 am
So nothing really new then. I’m guessing he puts a small RSS feed on there, a few outside links, related articles in site links, an image or video, and he still rewrites the PLR so it’s not 100% dup.
Nothing ground breaking.
I saw a cool Flickr scraper on a Wordpress blog so add something like that too.
You may find this free report for finding niches interesting. It’s used to promote the software which I’m not buying or vouching for but the methodology is interesting. The software of course promises to do it much quicker.
http://www.nicheinspector.com/
Splork // Apr 19, 2007 at 6:48 am
There is nothing new in Internet Marketing. But there are things that I didn’t know or didn’t think of that other smart people can point out. I would prefer to learn how to make money from someone like Phil Wiley who walks the talk, than any half hundred quacks, myself included perhaps, who hasn’t done squat in the scheme of things. There is a guy who does not have to work a single day out of the year, most likely for the rest of his life. I’ll tell you right now, I would listen to anything that he had to say if only to pick up just one crumb to use in my effort to make internet money.
Dupe content? No one really knows what is going on in the search engines. I post duplicated articles from OrwellPro with a catchy intro on many of my blogs two or three times a week and it has no adverse affect on how much Adsense I make.
The processing power to compare random snippets on a page has to be enormous. It’s been argued that they don’t have that processing power yet. Whatever. I don’t care about the argument because for the sites I care about I post my own stuff. It’s not even re-written PLR. For those other sites I post mixes of OrwellPro and re-written PLR and some do great and do not.
And I still make pretty good Adsense clicks from Niche Portal Builder sites I built almost two years ago. And that ain’t nothing BUT dupe content. Biggest mistake so far I’ve made is listening to guberu’s with an agenda and not continuing to build those portal sites. I think a lot has to do with their age at this point.
I keep saying that if you want people to READ and bookmark your site you have to do better than rewrite and post PLR. But a path to making money may have to include doing that because you need people to take a cursory glance and click into the ads.
April // Apr 19, 2007 at 8:48 am
IMGiver
I bought Niche Inspector but got a refund because I wasn’t happy with the fact that the data comes from overture which does weird thing to the results - eg “box tool” instead of “tool box”.
I bought http://www.adword-analyzer.com/discount.html instead which pretty much does exactly the same thing. This is not an affiliate URL and unfortunately I found the discounted price after I bought it.
April
IMgiver // Apr 19, 2007 at 4:00 pm
Splork, I wasn’t dissing Phil. I know he’s been in the game a long time and started in the trenches so I respect him for that. It’s more a gripe against the opportunistic interviewer who wants to charge $17 for a short interview with Phil and the type of content webmasterradio.com gives out for free.
Thanks April. I think you can import Wordtracker data into Nicheinspector but it’s still a moot point.
I use Keyword Country which does most of that except without the MSN and Yahoo data.
Thanks for the heads up on Adword analyzer. I get the feeling these little tools are pretty easy for a programmer to create. The price is whatever the marketer thinks they can get away with.
In the non IM world things like this would be shareware or free but because we are in this business everything is “buy now before the price goes up! download now even if it’s 2:00am!”
Splork // Apr 19, 2007 at 5:05 pm
Oh yea, I hear what you’re saying. No worries. Phil recommended it himself and it ended up being worth it to me.
Jon Andersen (opportunistic Interviewer) // Apr 27, 2007 at 10:11 am
Hi there,
glad the call sparked a bit of a debate although there is one thing I have to correct, the sales letter does not tell you to buy now or the price goes up - if it does then that’s an oversight on my part and I’ll remove that.
In my “real life” I am a publisher and although the freeware arena is wide but the book stores are full of information that is known to some, but useful to most people and that could be found for free if you looked hard enough.
But there are things in the interview that in my opinion you would not find elsewhere - it certainly was new to me that you could freely copy copyright protected information, word for word and still come up as a unique authority site without any legal hassle.
But anyone is entitled to their opinions and I’ve got no problems with anything else that’s been mentioned there,
thanks for the interest,
Jon (opportunistic interviewer ) :o)
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