Comments on: Day Job Killer or Killer Hype Job? http://lostballinhighweeds.com/day-job-killer-or-killer-hype-job/ A Blogger's Struggle With Online Success Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:31:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Reddiance http://lostballinhighweeds.com/day-job-killer-or-killer-hype-job/comment-page-1/#comment-2443 Reddiance Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:25:07 +0000 http://lostballinhighweeds.com/project-x/day-job-killer-or-killer-hype-job/#comment-2443 According to Clickbank stats, DJK is getting up to 25% refunds. Since he changed the price from $77 to $97, the refund stats aren't as accurate, but if you do the calculation as of today (Feb 15), you'll see that the refund percentage is 25.7 . That's not good! According to Clickbank stats, DJK is getting up to 25% refunds. Since he changed the price from $77 to $97, the refund stats aren’t as accurate, but if you do the calculation as of today (Feb 15), you’ll see that the refund percentage is 25.7
. That’s not good!

]]> By: Will http://lostballinhighweeds.com/day-job-killer-or-killer-hype-job/comment-page-1/#comment-2253 Will Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:49:14 +0000 http://lostballinhighweeds.com/project-x/day-job-killer-or-killer-hype-job/#comment-2253 With regards to the stampeding herd of AdWord ads all promoting the Affiliate Project X ebook, I expected such behaviour from those who didn't quite stretch their imagination past the pages they were reading. However, what matters is whether those ads are actually making their owners any return on their investment. Unless you know that for sure all you have is theory and cirumstantial evidence. I'm willing to bet that as with most Internet marketing products, the majority of people buying the ebook won't actually take any action on it. I've done it myself and I know many others have too. People buy the salespitch, the benefits and the dreams they sell, but fail to realise that most things worthwhile are not gotten easily. With regards to the stampeding herd of AdWord ads all promoting the Affiliate Project X ebook, I expected such behaviour from those who didn’t quite stretch their imagination past the pages they were reading.

However, what matters is whether those ads are actually making their owners any return on their investment. Unless you know that for sure all you have is theory and cirumstantial evidence.

I’m willing to bet that as with most Internet marketing products, the majority of people buying the ebook won’t actually take any action on it. I’ve done it myself and I know many others have too. People buy the salespitch, the benefits and the dreams they sell, but fail to realise that most things worthwhile are not gotten easily.

]]> By: Reddiance http://lostballinhighweeds.com/day-job-killer-or-killer-hype-job/comment-page-1/#comment-2252 Reddiance Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:38:43 +0000 http://lostballinhighweeds.com/project-x/day-job-killer-or-killer-hype-job/#comment-2252 Tom, Several years ago I purchased Google Cash by Chris Carpenter. Now he's updated it and he's giving free copies to his previous customers. I haven't read all of it (it's over 200 pages), but he has a 10-step process that neatly summarizes what you need to do. He's got some really good ideas there that I didn't do the first time around. I think that is worth the price of that ebook ($67 now but may go up to $127). Also, if you want to get back into Adwords, check out some good books at Amazon (search for "Adwords")...surprise surprise..Perry Marshall has one too. Chris includes a spreadsheet to track campaigns, but I don't think that spreadsheet is good enough. That is why I'm building my own spreadsheet (almost done). Knowing what to promote, how your ad is written and knowing how much to bid and then tracking which keywords convert is a good first step to ensuring success. Tom,

Several years ago I purchased Google Cash by Chris Carpenter. Now he’s updated it and he’s giving free copies to his previous customers. I haven’t read all of it (it’s over 200 pages), but he has a 10-step process that neatly summarizes what you need to do. He’s got some really good ideas there that I didn’t do the first time around. I think that is worth the price of that ebook ($67 now but may go up to $127).

Also, if you want to get back into Adwords, check out some good books at Amazon (search for “Adwords”)…surprise surprise..Perry Marshall has one too.

Chris includes a spreadsheet to track campaigns, but I don’t think that spreadsheet is good enough. That is why I’m building my own spreadsheet (almost done).

Knowing what to promote, how your ad is written and knowing how much to bid and then tracking which keywords convert is a good first step to ensuring success.

]]> By: Urban Hermit http://lostballinhighweeds.com/day-job-killer-or-killer-hype-job/comment-page-1/#comment-2248 Urban Hermit Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:35:16 +0000 http://lostballinhighweeds.com/project-x/day-job-killer-or-killer-hype-job/#comment-2248 Also the amazon ad example - the display url says amazon.com/uk - well if google sees that they will stop your ads for innacurate display url (should be amazon.co.uk) and even if they don't; only one person can use that technique unless you get into a bidding war! And there is a price in the ad - amazon will come down on you like a ton of bricks for an inaccurate price (and they change their prices, often - sometimes daily!) so if you duplicate that ad like he suggests you will spend a heck of a lot of time checking that the prices are correct across all 200 (or whatever) of your ads just for the sake of making a small profit on each one - very boring job! I know all this from personal experience - googlecash method back in the day - so what's new here that Googlecash didn't cover years ago? More debate on DJK here: http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=22106 Also the amazon ad example – the display url says amazon.com/uk – well if google sees that they will stop your ads for innacurate display url (should be amazon.co.uk) and even if they don’t; only one person can use that technique unless you get into a bidding war! And there is a price in the ad – amazon will come down on you like a ton of bricks for an inaccurate price (and they change their prices, often – sometimes daily!) so if you duplicate that ad like he suggests you will spend a heck of a lot of time checking that the prices are correct across all 200 (or whatever) of your ads just for the sake of making a small profit on each one – very boring job! I know all this from personal experience – googlecash method back in the day – so what’s new here that Googlecash didn’t cover years ago?

More debate on DJK here:
http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=22106

]]> By: Tom Busch http://lostballinhighweeds.com/day-job-killer-or-killer-hype-job/comment-page-1/#comment-2241 Tom Busch Tue, 06 Feb 2007 16:58:46 +0000 http://lostballinhighweeds.com/project-x/day-job-killer-or-killer-hype-job/#comment-2241 Reddiance, Same here, no real tracking to speak of. You are doing it the right way this time. Plain and simple, I never got the conversions necessary to break even, let alone make a profit. Could have been poor product selection, or any number of factors, beats me. Been ages since I've tried though. Tom Reddiance,

Same here, no real tracking to speak of. You are doing it the right way this time.

Plain and simple, I never got the conversions necessary to break even, let alone make a profit. Could have been poor product selection, or any number of factors, beats me. Been ages since I’ve tried though.

Tom

]]> By: Reddiance http://lostballinhighweeds.com/day-job-killer-or-killer-hype-job/comment-page-1/#comment-2239 Reddiance Tue, 06 Feb 2007 16:25:20 +0000 http://lostballinhighweeds.com/project-x/day-job-killer-or-killer-hype-job/#comment-2239 I would imagine he's an affiliate of Amazon. But Amazon doesn't pay much commission (well under 10% unless you sell lots). And, the prices in Amazon can change by the hour, so it's hard to advertise a set price in Adwords. I would imagine he’s an affiliate of Amazon. But Amazon doesn’t pay much commission (well under 10% unless you sell lots). And, the prices in Amazon can change by the hour, so it’s hard to advertise a set price in Adwords.

]]> By: April http://lostballinhighweeds.com/day-job-killer-or-killer-hype-job/comment-page-1/#comment-2238 April Tue, 06 Feb 2007 15:39:55 +0000 http://lostballinhighweeds.com/project-x/day-job-killer-or-killer-hype-job/#comment-2238 Anyone know what this technique he used with linking to Amazon for Adobe Elements? It seems the price he advertises (for Adobe) is lower than the price when you click on the link. Also there is another ad almost identicle on 1st spot. I never read the 1st ebook and I have little interest in adwords (It scares me quite a lot). April Anyone know what this technique he used with linking to Amazon for Adobe Elements?

It seems the price he advertises (for Adobe) is lower than the price when you click on the link. Also there is another ad almost identicle on 1st spot.

I never read the 1st ebook and I have little interest in adwords (It scares me quite a lot).

April

]]> By: Reddiance http://lostballinhighweeds.com/day-job-killer-or-killer-hype-job/comment-page-1/#comment-2237 Reddiance Tue, 06 Feb 2007 14:00:39 +0000 http://lostballinhighweeds.com/project-x/day-job-killer-or-killer-hype-job/#comment-2237 Message to Tom Busch: Tom, why did you fail using Adwords/clickbank? I'm just curious to see why some people say they make tons of money but others say they don't. Did you track every click and every sale? Were you getting enough clicks but not enough sales to break even? Were you using a spreadsheet to track everything? I did a few campaigns a few years back but didn't really do it properly (no tracking). Now I'm getting back into it but this time I'm analyzing and tracking everything with a spreadsheet. I am tracking down to the keyword level. ie. which keyword actually produce a clickbank sale. Message to Tom Busch:
Tom, why did you fail using Adwords/clickbank? I’m just curious to see why some people say they make tons of money but others say they don’t.

Did you track every click and every sale? Were you getting enough clicks but not enough sales to break even? Were you using a spreadsheet to track everything?

I did a few campaigns a few years back but didn’t really do it properly (no tracking). Now I’m getting back into it but this time I’m analyzing and tracking everything with a spreadsheet. I am tracking down to the keyword level. ie. which keyword actually produce a clickbank sale.

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