I clearly do not do a very good job of getting myself off of marketer’s email lists. This weekend I was spam slammed with reminders that Day Job Killer will drop on Tuesday. They all pointed to the success of Affiliate Project X and said that I need to spend my time watching a video which details how great the author is by allowing us to see his CrapBank accounts and the fat stacks of Benjamins he’s bundling.
The video was retarded. 22 minutes of the guy flipping between all his accounts. No doubt he is successful but I would have gotten the point in about 3 minutes. But that is the way of Internet Marketing isn’t it? Prices have to be something 7. Promo videos have to be 22 minutes long. And all products have to be released on Tues with a guaranteed price rise if you don’t buy between 2 and 3 EST.
Alright, granted, if there is a marketer who knows what the hell he’s doing it is this Chris guy. I bought Affiliate Project X and actually kinda liked it. I learned something from the ebook. I even made a little money from putting into practice a technique or two. That hardly ever happens when I buy something like this.
Day Job Killer was inevitable. It’s like those movies that surprise the studio with how much money they made so they rush back to the set to get a sequel out before the audience forgets about the original.
But can this guy generate buzz and hype or what? He has figured out how to appeal to the guys in the middle who want to make something out of this business but just can’t quite get there. He reads like he is an outsider who has discovered what those on the inside do to make money and he wants to drag us all along with him. The messiah. He keeps saying things like “the gurus don’t want you to know their secrets”, as if he is not an insider. Whatever. He’s a money maker.
Day Job Killer is going to make a lot of people in the pyramid some serious cash. The dogs he allowed to get preview copies to help build his hype and start coming up with their lame bonuses will be the ones who will be celebrating Tuesday night.
OK, so will I be a buyer? Probably, as long as the price is below three significant digits. I don’t go for the argument that you should spend whatever it takes because “you could make back your money with just one sale”. Uh-huh. How many times does that happen? Plus, it makes no sense to spend at a premium when you are trying to make money. I don’t buy a TV for 10% over cost just because I might watch it 10% more. No, I look for the best deal. Which you can’t do with these damn info products, but it doesn’t mean you should just spend whatever either.
You can usually tell what the price will be by looking at the perceived value of bonuses that his partners are offering if you buy from their hoplink. The higher the price, the more they will put into the bonuses. However, with the popularity of Project X, the volume these guys expect to do from their lists may make up for a higher price, so it’s tough to say which way this is going to go.
Why would I buy something so obviously hyped? Because I bought Project X and was able to make a little money from the techniques he discussed. That hardly ever happens. Plus, I don’t like to think for myself too much as I am a lazy bastard, so if this ebook can give me a few new ideas to try then it could be worth it.
If the price is right, I’m in and will report back. If it’s like $127, I’ll stick with blogging, Project X and Bum Marketing.
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I read somewhere that it will be $77 and $97 later on. But that may be incorrect, because Chris himself stated that it will be priced well above APX. We’ll see tomorrow…
Didn’t he say in the video that the price will start off at $77 ?
As I heard his video I kept thinking, “What new and wonderful tactics has he come up with now that weren’t in his Affiliate Project X product? I mean, how much new stuff can there be?
I’ll probably end up buying it and regretting it, just like Project X. I don’t like his style of writing. He says a lot in his ebook and he assume you know everything. Doesn’t give examples or the details that I was looking for. It’s like he rushed it out so he could earn his money.
I bought another ebook product, the amazonian king. Now, that guy sure gives good examples and you can walk through his material.
If you buy it let us know how if it’s worth it.
$77- he may have said it in the video but after a while I stopped paying attention and started fast forwarding through.
There is one sore thumb that has me very skeptical.
It is quite easy to dump the ClickBank template into a web editor, fudge the numbers and make it look “real”.
What gets me is the fact that he doesn’t display the browser address bar in the video.
He tabs from one clickbank account to the next being very cautious not to show the address bar.
In the video he does not scroll… each supposed clickbank account appears in exactly the same position… hmmm.
Further, he never really logs into each account… The info is just “there”… and he tabs back and forth from one to the next and back again being very careful not to show that adress bar.
I have seen crap like this before. If he is making millions with this then why on God’s green Earth would he give away his secrets so that other affiliates can cut into his business???
I smell a rat.
Charles
Very good point. One that I have overlooked in my constant quest for online riches. If these methods are so good why share it with the masses. I mean no offense, but if I found secrets like this that could make me money, I’d be inclined to share it with friends and family and keep the circle real tight. The red flag should go up when all these pimps start promoting it like this. And Charles makes very valid points to think about. Glad you brought it up today instead of tomorrow when my hard earned cash would seep out of my wallet.
Charles,
He’s using Camtasia. To use it, you set up all of your windows in layers, then click on each one when you need it. If you do it right, you line them up so it’s like a slide show.
I don’t think Chris is a sham; I believe he is very sincere in his methods.
He’s a good marketer; he should get wealthy.
I plan to buy it for $77… it’s got me curious.
Splork, you do make a good point: Why share the killer methods?
Ego? Notoriety? Who knows?
But, I can bet the farm on this: He isn’t giving out the BEST stuff. Award-winning chefs who put out cookbooks *still* hold back the best-of-the-best.
It’s only human nature.
I am *sure* this happens in IM as well.
I used to be a professional magician. When I learned from seminars/lectures, etc., the magician teaching the methods *always* had his “pet method”… the one he *really* does in his shows, but he taught the one he *used* to do.
I am sure this is like that.
BTW, still going through the Adwords Blackbook DVD’s. I’m on #3. It’s starting out with basic Adwords, but I see it already starting to teach new stuff that I never saw before.
Now, whether it works or not… we’ll see.
Bryan
The thing with these “new” IM tactics is that once it goes to thousands of affiliates, then everyone is using his methods and they lose the impact.
I’ve seen some of the Project Affiliate X in some of Google ads. When everyone is doing the same thing (“I got scammed from xxx…” then tells you how wonderful it really is), people will get fed up with this tactic.
Now he’s got another tactic that he won’t be using anymore (TranceMaker above is right). Just sell off his method to the masses of affiliates. Have one last go at making another $1,000,000. Then a few months later he will come up with another tactic that he’s used but doesn’t want to anymore. Cha-Ching!!! Another $1,000,000 ! This guy ain’t stupid!
I doubt I will buy it. For one thing, I’m going broke buying all these IM products, that I don’t make a dime with.
And for another, I’ve never had success with using adwords for clickbank products. I’ve only lost money doing it.
The one thing I consistently made money with using adwords was arbitraging it right back to google, but that dried up for me quite a while ago.
Message to Tom Busch:
Tom, why did you fail using Adwords/clickbank? I’m just curious to see why some people say they make tons of money but others say they don’t.
Did you track every click and every sale? Were you getting enough clicks but not enough sales to break even? Were you using a spreadsheet to track everything?
I did a few campaigns a few years back but didn’t really do it properly (no tracking). Now I’m getting back into it but this time I’m analyzing and tracking everything with a spreadsheet. I am tracking down to the keyword level. ie. which keyword actually produce a clickbank sale.
Anyone know what this technique he used with linking to Amazon for Adobe Elements?
It seems the price he advertises (for Adobe) is lower than the price when you click on the link. Also there is another ad almost identicle on 1st spot.
I never read the 1st ebook and I have little interest in adwords (It scares me quite a lot).
April
I would imagine he’s an affiliate of Amazon. But Amazon doesn’t pay much commission (well under 10% unless you sell lots). And, the prices in Amazon can change by the hour, so it’s hard to advertise a set price in Adwords.
Reddiance,
Same here, no real tracking to speak of. You are doing it the right way this time.
Plain and simple, I never got the conversions necessary to break even, let alone make a profit. Could have been poor product selection, or any number of factors, beats me. Been ages since I’ve tried though.
Tom
Also the amazon ad example – the display url says amazon.com/uk – well if google sees that they will stop your ads for innacurate display url (should be amazon.co.uk) and even if they don’t; only one person can use that technique unless you get into a bidding war! And there is a price in the ad – amazon will come down on you like a ton of bricks for an inaccurate price (and they change their prices, often – sometimes daily!) so if you duplicate that ad like he suggests you will spend a heck of a lot of time checking that the prices are correct across all 200 (or whatever) of your ads just for the sake of making a small profit on each one – very boring job! I know all this from personal experience – googlecash method back in the day – so what’s new here that Googlecash didn’t cover years ago?
More debate on DJK here:
http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=22106
Tom,
Several years ago I purchased Google Cash by Chris Carpenter. Now he’s updated it and he’s giving free copies to his previous customers. I haven’t read all of it (it’s over 200 pages), but he has a 10-step process that neatly summarizes what you need to do. He’s got some really good ideas there that I didn’t do the first time around. I think that is worth the price of that ebook ($67 now but may go up to $127).
Also, if you want to get back into Adwords, check out some good books at Amazon (search for “Adwords”)…surprise surprise..Perry Marshall has one too.
Chris includes a spreadsheet to track campaigns, but I don’t think that spreadsheet is good enough. That is why I’m building my own spreadsheet (almost done).
Knowing what to promote, how your ad is written and knowing how much to bid and then tracking which keywords convert is a good first step to ensuring success.
With regards to the stampeding herd of AdWord ads all promoting the Affiliate Project X ebook, I expected such behaviour from those who didn’t quite stretch their imagination past the pages they were reading.
However, what matters is whether those ads are actually making their owners any return on their investment. Unless you know that for sure all you have is theory and cirumstantial evidence.
I’m willing to bet that as with most Internet marketing products, the majority of people buying the ebook won’t actually take any action on it. I’ve done it myself and I know many others have too. People buy the salespitch, the benefits and the dreams they sell, but fail to realise that most things worthwhile are not gotten easily.
According to Clickbank stats, DJK is getting up to 25% refunds. Since he changed the price from $77 to $97, the refund stats aren’t as accurate, but if you do the calculation as of today (Feb 15), you’ll see that the refund percentage is 25.7
. That’s not good!