Funny thing. Yesterday I made the most in Adsense with a .info site I built in 2005. Made from Niche Portal Builder. This site and two others keep churning along dragging in Adsense clicks with higher CTR than any blog or website I own. Not everyday is a banner day, but one of the three is usually top 3 in earnings for the day. I keep hearing how Google will penalize me if they catch me for having these sites. I can’t see how these sites are any different than any other Adsense site out there.
These NPB sites are the ultimate in long tail keyword sites. You know how all the guberus continue to preach long tail keyword article writing? You write an article for searches that get 10-20 searches a day. You hope the keyword phrase is obscure enough that you have no competition yet get a few visitors. 10 visitors come to your site. Out of those 10 you hope three click out via Adsense and you make 50 cents. Do that for 10-20 pages and you’ve possibly got yourself a site raking in $1-200 a month. Good times.
With these NPB sites you are obviously building a keyword site. Think about loading up 30 long tail keywords that you discovered in Nichebot. The site is built and uploaded in 5 minutes. If you can manage to get the thing indexed, and not banned, then you are on your way to capturing those long tail keywords.
So you’re sitting there reading this mess thinking, “well, just go build some dumbass.” I may. I should. But the noise about how these sites will ruin your Adsense account is very loud. I don’t like to do anything to piss off Google. But when you surf around and see shit sites with Adsense and note that your own NPB sites continue to do just fine, you wonder if all the worry is just guberus with an agenda and people who have no idea what they are talking about.
Maybe I’m just lucky. You know I had, I don’t remember, 10, maybe 20, of these NPB sites when I started out. Some worked out great obviously and some never made a dime. It’s why $1 .info domains were used. But I also know that I never thought about search volume when I built the sites. I simply found as many keywords as possible and used whatever the tool found. Long tail or not.
So apparently you cannot build sites solely for the purpose of Adsense. Yet you can park a freakin’ domain and put Adsense on there. I know. Google wouldn’t allow someone to buy a hundred domains and put Adsense on there. No wait. They have a program exactly for that purpose. Seems like an interesting way of creating keyword generated sites with Google’s blessing.
AdSense for domains provides advertisers with additional opportunities to find their customers, and ads on these pages convert well. In addition, we regularly receive requests from advertisers who have found domains to be an effective way to reach their users.
Really? Sounds like they are encouraging you to create a domain for the sole purpose of using Adsense. Thought that was against the rules. I would think that creating a website consisting of keywords (with NPB) that people are searching for, yet there are no websites available, or very few, would be an effective way to reach some users. Adsense for domains has typically nothing more than Adsense. NPB, or even Nichecreator, sites are built with the purpose of monetizing with Adsense, yet there are other links to click, articles to read and videos to watch. Hmmm. Perhaps I am the only one who thinks there is hypocrisy.
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Hi Splork,
You said -
“I don’t like to do anything to piss off Google. But when you surf around and see shit sites with Adsense and note that your own NPB sites continue to do just fine, you wonder if all the worry is just guberus with an agenda and people who have no idea what they are talking about.”
Nail on head. Don’t worry about pissing off Google. Do they worry about making billions from scraping our copyrighted website content?
Yeah, they worry all the way to the bank.
Times are a changing. When profits and the economy were booming, big G could spend the time and effort to screen for quality.
Now that things have changed, maybe big G has had a change of heart. Aaron Wall wrote an article about big G even doing arbitrage and now we have domain parking.
I always believe to not follow the heard and since none of the gurus pimp page builder software, less people are using it and off of big G’s radar, it might be a good idea to to start using them.
I have 2 sites that is pure crap and is one of my highest earners
Yea, Google has jumped into the domain parking thing. You need 750,000 visitors per month (I think).
Google AdSense for Domains
http://www.google.com/domainpark/
Sort of a high bar to jump over. At least for me.
Don’t own any domains that even come close to that. Then again, I don’t own any parked domains.
I, too, get a little tired of Google Gods do as I say, not as I do attitude as well.
They cloak, they scrape, they sell links..
But, don’t you do it…
I wish they did not have over 60% percent of the search market.
Have to admit though, they do have good products.
I love their search, Google Trends, Keywords Tools, Google Maps, etc.
I just don’t like monopolistic SE’s which they are quickly becoming, if not there already.
I wish there were two other Googles out there to even out the playing field.
Don’t know the future of Yahoo or MSN. They, and the smaller engines split the rest of the 40%.
At least they are a buffer of sorts to total domination to the Goog..
Robert – The Wholesale Products Guy
Don’t get me started on Google. They sent me an email objecting to some content on my site and pointing out it was in breach of their Adsense Terms & Conditions and asked me to take it down. So I did. Straight away. I also dropped off a lot of other stuff that might have been borderline (they are such friggin prudes) and then I get another email about a week later saying my site had been banned from Adsense. Even though I’d removed what they asked me to remove. But the worst part is there is no redress – there’s no review, no Customer Relations Dept they just bump you and stiff cheddar. They run YouTube the same way. And what’s their motto?
“Don’t be evil”.
From their “Code of Conduct” – “Googlers generally apply those words to how we serve our users. But “Don’t be evil” is much more than that. Yes, it’s about providing our users unbiased access to information, focusing on their needs and giving them the best products and services that we can. But it’s also about doing the right thing more generally – following the law, acting honorably and treating each other with respect.”
Laughable.
Hi Splork,
Recently signed up to article underground and they seem to all about creating adsense sites and the articles are genuine pieces of crap. I might as well write my own articles.
I know you use plr pro and their articles are just as crap yet you think that they’ve helped you make money.
I’m thinking of ditching article underground because ther’s hardly any activity on their forum and their site seems to experience a lot of outages.
I know you’ve talked about the tools you use at length but how do you find plr-pro vs anything else, or even article underground if you’ve experienced them
Of all the services I’ve used, and there are quite a few, PLRPro is the best of the lot. I don’t get too wrapped up into how good the articles are, as long as they are decent. I can rewrite PLR in about 5-10 minutes per article. I just hate doing it. I can ramble with the best of them.
You really need to separate PLR sites from site you care about. For instance I have a few blogs that I write articles for myself. I’d never put PLR on there because the site reflects me and my interest. However if I am trying to blanket the web with content, to try to get Adsense clicks and affiliate sales, I really don’t care about the content. Just whether or not the content brings in the visitors. I don’t think for a minute that anyone reads PLR shit. And that’s not the point of it anyway. It’s content to get people to your site to click stuff. If you want an audience, readers, then you don’t use PLR and write stuff yourself.
I also use AMA for free content. If the articles are not re-written at least 40% then they don’t get posted. But if they are it’s just new content to fill the blog.
Hope that makes sense. I simply don’t mix PLR with sites I care about. I use PLR for a different objective.
Thanks for explaining the difference.
That’s a little clearer to me now.
Just to follow that train of thought. Do you find plr site monetization worth it? (ie all the article rewriting and linking efforts) .
In other words, do you think you get better adsense/affiliate earnings from your plr sites as opposed to the sites you care about or verses your ppc efforts?
I’m a member of ppc-coach but I’m looking for a longer term solution because the same effort that I spend trying to find a profitable ppc campaign I could be spending on building a plr site whose traffic won’t be 100% lost once I stop paying for traffic.
Have you ever gone the ppc route, or do you use it in any limited way on your sites?
I make no money, nor do I try to, with PPC.
Sites like this one, that “I care about about”, make very little money. The odd affiliate product sale is about it.
PLR sites with Adsense do reasonably well as long as I do a good job of getting the sites ranked for keywords. Long tail or not. I have been trying to integrate affilorama blueprint into some of these niche sites as well with mixed results.
I recommend reading Griz. His posts about Adsense and backlinks and content and etc., are very good. See link on the right sidebar.
Thanks,
I just finished reading his site and it answered a lot of my questions about adsense.
Robert SAID:
You need 750,000 visitors per month (I think)”
I cannot find that. Anyone else see that? I think that was their OLD program.
“”"You hope the keyword phrase is obscure enough that you have no competition yet get a few visitors. 10 visitors come to your site. Out of those 10 you hope three click out via Adsense and you make 50 cents. “”"
I have 100 visitors / day and only 4 or 5 clicks.= 0, 10 … 0, 25 CENTS.
i think that depends on the keywords. but 10 to 3 is 33% ctr.